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Wed April 6, 2011
by Steve Mascord
IT wasn't so long ago that players caught having a leak in public would only have to look over their shoulder to find someone willing to defend them.
"We've all done it," came the chorus from a group of people that, at times, included me. So it's been intriguing this week to see the reaction to the "indiscretions" of Anthony Watmough and Terrence SeuSeu. Peter Sterling, for instance, said he had been known to take a whiz behind a tree on a golf course - but never in the main street of a Sydney suburb like these two apparently did.
No-one is defending them. Des Hasler and Scott Penn have even suggested they may have their contracts torn up. It seems we have all "moved on" from the belief that footballers are just being victimised by the media for incidents which would barely raise an eyebrow if involving your average Joe. The majority of us now accept that being a role model is not optional when your entire pay packet comes from people for watching you "at work".
Todd Carney was in court today. I haven't heard anyone decry the number of cameras waiting for him outside or talk about how common drink driving really is. Those arguments, for whatever reason, no longer seem relevant. As a society, as I said, we've moved on from them.
All of which makes the Warriors' signing of Shaun Metcalf intriguing from a media and sociology point of view. Here is a guy who, while just a teenager, was involved with two mates in assaulting his then-girlfriend in an attempt to make her miscarry. It was an appalling crime, obviously. He and his mates did time. Those close to him say he will forever be haunted by what he did and argue that if society is willing to give him another chance, so should football.
But the New Zealand Rugby League deliberated long and hard in 2005 before even letting him play the game at a semi-amateur level.
If you're waiting to see what my point is here, I don't have one. It's YOUR point to make. On one hand we threaten players with the sack for taking a leak in public - albeit the latest in a long line of misdemeanours - because society's rules and punishments don't apply to role models. On the other, we USE society's rules and punishments to justify allowing someone guilty of a ghastly crime back into the game.
You are the barometer of what is acceptable, not me. Tell me what you think. Are there crimes that can be committed which rugby league should not forgive, even if the player or administrator has done time as penance? John Elias, for instance, talks in his book about Wayne Bennett telling him he cannot hire him as assistant coach because of his record....
Over to you...
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LAST week's column was filed somewhat late. It should have been just a bit later ? in which case we could have addressed Widnes being admitted to Super League and new concussion rules being introduced for the NRL.
Widnes' return is long overdue. I'm really looking forward to the first cross-border 'derby' with Crusaders, who the Vikings believe got "their" spot in Super League a couple of years back. It will be interesting to see if Halifax also get a licence but I'm a little dismayed that we don't have another serious contender from an expansion area.
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As for the concussion rules - and I make this point in today's
Rugby League Week - take a bow Dr Jack Kazandjian. Everyone, including me, had a laugh when he ran on the field and stopped the United States-Jamaica Atlantic Cup game in November last year because Jermaine Wray had copped a head knock. Wacky, litigious Americans, right?
Five months on, the NRL has proven Dr Jack right - and the competition's chief medical officer Ron Muratore says the same thing could happen here. At some point in the near future, I'll try and track Jack down for a comment.
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FEEDBACK now and Scott,
The Australian reported last week that Canterbury Leagues Club was one of several licensed clubs Cronulla Leagues had approached about a merger. I specifically asked Sharks chairman Damian Irvine for an RLW Club Call before that story appeared whether any of the organisations he approached had football teams. "Not in the NRL," he replied.
He also assured me that any merger would be off-field and have no impact on football.
Gee, as I've said before, I think David has done well and would do even better with the independence the IC would confer on him. And the reason Cronulla Leagues is seeking a merger is to improve their cash-flow situation.
Jeff, agree with everything you've written. Well done. I have missed the last two Four Nations finals due to recreational pursuits but I will be changing my plans this year if Darren is fit and touring to be there at his last game.
Thankyou to Matteo Visona for his feedback and to the readers who contacted him. The stand-off continues...
Buttery, no league on TV in Papua New Guinea?? Jeez, that's the thin edge of the wedge isn't it. I'll chase it up with the NRL. Which reminds me, clubs that host MNF get cash, not contra, according to John Brady at the League.
Mon April 4, 2011
Source: www.manlyseaeagles.com.auThe Manly Sea Eagles today suspended forwards Anthony Watmough and Terence Seuseu for a week and fined them a week's wages after the pair were fined for urinating on The Corso at Manly on Sunday night.
Watmough and Seuseu will miss Saturday's match against the Cronulla Sharks at Toyota Park after the club conducted an investigation after learning police charged them with offensive conduct. The players were given an on the spot fine of $220 when caught urinating on a shopfront at the corner of the Corso and Whistler St. at 9.25 p.m.
Manly CEO Graham Lowe said the behavour of the players was unacceptable.
"They have embarrassed themselves and the club and its sponsors and supporters ? they have shown great remorse for their silly action and will pay a heavy penalty," Lowe said.
Watmough and Seuseu offered the following joint statement:
"We are bitterly disappointed with our actions and for the fact that we have let our team mates, our families and our supporters down.
"It was a careless and stupid thing to do and we accept the suspension without complaint."
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 2011 NRL Telstra Premiership
Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles
5 games; [View] Round 1 [12 Mar 11] L 6-18 v Storm (A). [BE]
[View] Round 2 [20 Mar 11] W 27-16 v Roosters (A). [BE]
[View] Round 3 [27 Mar 11] W 26-12 v Knights (H). [BE]
[View] Round 4 [01 Apr 11] L 30-32 v Rabbitohs (A). [BE]
[View] Round 26 [04 Sep 11] L 10-18 v Brisbane (A). [BE]
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2010 NRL Telstra Premiership
Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles
5 games; [View] Round 1 [15 Mar 10] L 22-26 v Tigers (A). [BE]
[View] Round 2 [21 Mar 10] L 20-24 v Eels (A). [BE]
[View] Round 12 [29 May 10] W 24-20 v Cowboys (A). [BE]
[View] Round 13 [06 Jun 10] L 6-22 v Broncos (H). [BE]
[View] Finals Week 1 [12 Sep 10] L 0-28 v Dragons. [BE]
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2009 NRL Telstra Premiership
Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks
17 games; [View] Round 5 [11 Apr 09] L 14-24 v Raiders (H). [BE]
[View] Round 6 [19 Apr 09] L 10-34 v Cowboys (H). [BE]
[View] Round 7 [24 Apr 09] L 26-32 v Rabbitohs (A). [BE]
[View] Round 10 [16 May 09] L 22-26 v Panthers (A). [BE]
[View] Round 11 [23 May 09] L 4-26 v Dragons (H). [BE]
[View] Round 12 [30 May 09] W 13-10 v Eels (A). [BE]
[View] Round 13 [07 Jun 09] W 18-10 v Warriors (H). [BE]
[View] Round 14 [14 Jun 09] W 24-22 v Raiders (A). [BE]
[View] Round 15 [22 Jun 09] W 46-12 v Broncos (H). [BE]
[View] Round 16 [27 Jun 09] L 12-19 v Roosters (A). [BE]
[View] Round 17 [04 Jul 09] L 4-24 v Cowboys (A). [BE]
[View] Round 19 [18 Jul 09] L 26-32 v Sea Eagles (H). [BE]
[View] Round 20 [25 Jul 09] L 10-30 v Storm (A). [BE]
[View] Round 21 [02 Aug 09] L 0-30 v Eels (H). [BE]
[View] Round 22 [10 Aug 09] L 10-30 v Broncos (A). [BE]
[View] Round 25 [30 Aug 09] L 16-18 v Sea Eagles (A). [BE]
[View] Round 26 [05 Sep 09] L 24-26 v Rabbitohs (H). [BE]
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2008 World Cup
Samoa
3 games; [View] Pool C [05 Nov 08] L 16-34 v Ireland. [DH]
[View] Pool C [31 Oct 08] W 20-12 v Tonga. [DH]
[View] Ranking Games [09 Nov 08] W 42-10 v France. [DH]
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2008 NRL Telstra Premiership
Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks
14 games; 1 tries, 4 points.
[View] Round 7 [27 Apr 08] L 16-20 v Tigers (H). [BE]
[View] Round 9 [10 May 08] W 24-18 v Cowboys (A). [BE]
[View] Round 10 [17 May 08] W 13-6 v Broncos (H). [BE]
[View] Round 11 [26 May 08] L 22-30 v Bulldogs (A). [BE]
[View] Round 12 [01 Jun 08] W 30-14 v Gold Coast (H). [BE]
[View] Round 13 [08 Jun 08] W 24-22 v Panthers (A). [BE]
[View] Round 14 [14 Jun 08] W 24-8 v Warriors (H). [BE]
[View] Round 19 [19 Jul 08] W 16-13 v Knights (H). [BE]
[View] Round 20 [25 Jul 08] L 12-18 v Broncos (A). [BE]
[View] Round 22 [09 Aug 08] W 28-14 v Rabbitohs (H). [BE]
[View] Round 23 [16 Aug 08] L 4-18 v Warriors (A). [BE]
[View] Round 24 [22 Aug 08] W 20-0 v Roosters (H). [BE]
[View] Round 26 [06 Sep 08] W 28-22 v Cowboys (H). [BE] 4 Pts; 1t
[View] Finals Week 3 [26 Sep 08] L 0-28 v Storm. [BE]
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2007 NRL Telstra Premiership
Newcastle Knights
9 games; 1 tries, 4 points.
[View] Round 2 [23 Mar 07] W 16-12 v Dragons (A). [DH]
[View] Round 3 [02 Apr 07] L 18-48 v Raiders (A). [DH]
[View] Round 4 [07 Apr 07] L 12-22 v Storm (H). [BE]
[View] Round 16 [29 Jun 07] L 25-28 v Rabbitohs (H). [DH]
[View] Round 18 [16 Jul 07] L 0-44 v Storm (A). [BE]
[View] Round 19 [21 Jul 07] L 17-20 v Roosters (H). [DH]
[View] Round 20 [28 Jul 07] L 10-52 v Warriors (A). [BE]
[View] Round 21 [03 Aug 07] L 4-20 v Dragons (H). [BE]
[View] Round 22 [10 Aug 07] L 16-50 v Sea Eagles (A). [BE]
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